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May 5 12 6:05 PM

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US said Saddam was a dictator and activated a war on Iraq. As a result, Islamic extremists control Iraq and Iraq Christian suffered severe persecution. They escaped to Syria. Now US says Assad is a dictator and ..... Poor Christians, where will they go this time?

The price of regime change
By David Warren, Ottawa Citizen

There are millions of Christians in Syria, who probably have the Russians and Chinese to thank that they may live there a little longer. The Security Council vetoes, a fortnight ago, on a resolution calling upon Syria's dictator to step down, and supporting an Arab-sponsored plan to "end the violence," put paid to any immediate prospect of western intervention.

The outrage expressed by Hillary Clinton, William Hague, and other western foreign ministers, probably concealed a little relief, for the vetoes provided the excuse they needed to avoid the issue, while continuing to posture about "humanitarianism" and "democracy."


Christians were as common in Syria as in Egypt, before their numbers were immensely swelled by refugees from Iraq - well over a million fleeing up the Euphrates River valley, from anti-Christian persecution by Iraq's Islamists. By now, there could be more than four million Christians within Syria's borders.
When the Assad regime falls, it will be open season on them, on the Alawites, and all the other minorities. Granted, Assad is a monster who has earned an ugly fate. But at what expense should we indulge the fleeting satisfaction of deposing him?

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May 5 12 7:42 PM

Bashir is a dictator, I do not think he would be any lesser a dictator if happened to be Christian or of any other religion. His only purpose of killing people is to hang onto power for as longas he can, just like Gaddaffi did, and many other a dictator.Persecution of a another faith is the result of primitive uneducated minds. Those who Practise such idiocy are not worth anything to their own faith or any other. Similarity to this religios hate exists in Israel Also:

For Israel, punishing Palestinians is not enough

An ongoing hunger strike by nearly 2,000 Palestinian inmates stands as a reminder of their humanity, but Israelis are more interested in revenge.
HAARETZ: In faraway, frozen Finland - otherwise known as the infirmary of Ramle Prison - the lives of four detainees who have been on a hunger strike for at least 60 days hang in the balance. Nearly 2,000 inmates in the Nafha, Ashkelon, Gilboa and other prisons around Israel have been on hunger strike for two weeks. The very fact of their decision to refuse food and their willingness to risk being punished by the authorities stands as a reminder of their humanity.
The Israel Prison Service does not have to make much of an effort to conceal this mass action from Israeli eyes. The great majority of Israelis label all incarcerated Palestinians as conscienceless murderers or common terrorists, at the least. They have little interest in acts of personal or collective courage on the part of Palestinian detainees that serve as reminders that they are human beings.

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May 19 12 1:42 PM

What you said is a copy of what US says. Saddam was said a dictator too, how do you evaluate the following report?

Iraq: Worse for Christians Now Than under Saddam Hussein

Michael Ireland, Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service
Tuesday, July 01, 2008

July 2, 2008

BAGHDAD (ANS) -- The Reverend Canon Andrew White, affectionately known as The Vicar of Baghdad, says the situation for Christians in Iraq is "clearly worse" than under the Saddam Hussein regime, toppled by US and Coalition forces in 2003.

In a segment of the CBS news program 60 Minutes, originally broadcast on Dec. 2, 2007, updated June 26 and aired on June 29, 2008, correspondent Scott Pelley asked Canon White: "You were here during Saddam’s reign. And now after. Which was better? Which was worse?"

"The situation now is clearly worse" than under Saddam, White replied.

"There’s no comparison between Iraq now and then," he told Pelley. "Things are the most difficult they have ever been for Christians. Probably ever in history. They’ve never known it like now."

Raymond Ibrahim: "Christian life in Iraq has been a living hell ever since U.S. forces ousted the late Saddam Hussein in 2003"

In "The Silent Extermination of Iraq's 'Christian Dogs,'" our friend Raymond Ibrahim in FrontPage (via, April 19, discusses the rapid deterioration of the situation of Christians in Iraq -- while the world yawns:

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Jun 4 12 3:34 PM

    Obviously, Saddam was more receptive to other religions, as you know his right man was a Christian


But all these took place in US occupied Iraq. Why you dare not touch it?

What about this. It happened under US occupation. Now please state your comment.

There were churches in Afghan before US invasion. None is left 10 years after US occupied Afghan. Be noticed that this news indirectly(may be the news agency is afraid of being called "unpatriot"?) related this to US foreign policy.

By Edwin Mora
October 10, 2011
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( -- There is not a single, public Christian church left in Afghanistan, according to the U.S. State Department.

This reflects the state of religious freedom in that country ten years after the United States first invaded it and overthrew its Islamist Taliban regime.

In the intervening decade, U.S. taxpayers have spent $440 billion to support Afghanistan's new government and more than 1,700 U.S. military personnel have died serving in that country.

The last public Christian church in Afghanistan was razed in March 2010, according to the State Department's latest International Religious Freedom Report.

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Jun 4 12 9:43 PM

The answer is in the way US made the occupation work: They divided the people of Iraq and turned them against each Other, just like it was done in Bosnia, Kosovo and many other places. One look at what is now happening in Libya tells you all you want to know. I do not know that much about "Christian churches" in Afghanistan, but I do know that about 200 religious buildings were smashed by US in their attack on Fallujah, many of them were churches, where at least 200,000 were killed, many of them Christians. United States had no business being in Afghanistan, it did nothing there except waste hell of a lot of money and make about 1,000 Afghani drug dealers into multi millionaires

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Jun 18 12 5:49 PM

Syrian Christians worry about life after Bashar Assad

They fear civil war and revenge attacks if President Bashar Assad falls, an anxiety fed by the sectarian violence seen in Egypt and Iraq.

Ignatius IV, patriarch of the Greek Orthodox Church, described Syria as an oasis of religious tolerance where Christians can worship freely, build sanctuaries and run schools, activities that are restricted by varying degrees in a number of Middle Eastern countries.

Christian clerics are frequently shown on television taking part in joint prayer services with their Muslim counterparts. The defense minister is a Christian, as are other senior members of the government and security forces.

"Wherever you go, you find Christians and Muslims," said the patriarch, who has a photograph of himself with Assad displayed on his office wall. "There is no distinction.",0,4403703.story

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Jun 19 12 12:52 PM

We talked before about the plans of Bilderbergers to dominate the Earth though terror. That is what is also happening in Syria. What these lunatics did is analyze the reasons for the failure of British colonialism and are turning that around and setting people of different faiths and origins against each other in order to achieve their goals.

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Jul 2 12 4:23 PM

Patriarch al-Rahi: Syria is Closest to Democracy in Arab World, Needs the Reforms Announced by President al-Assad

Mar 04, 2012

He regretted the violence and destruction taking place in Syria, saying that there are destructive plans in world politics and that the people don't want the extremists who are receiving financial, military and political support from certain countries.

"How can the Arab Spring be a spring when people are killed every day? They talk about Iraq and democracy while a million Christians out of one and a half million were forced to leave Iraq… where is democracy in Iraq?" he asked, saying that this so-called spring is closer to a winter of war, destruction and killing.

"What good is democracy if it wants to kill people and throw away stability?" Patriarch al-Rahi wondered.

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Jul 16 12 6:34 PM

12 April 2012 09:12

Syrian people urge Army not to withdraw under Annan deal

Syrians in Homs have urged the Army not to withdraw from the western city as has been required by a peace plan proposed by the special UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan.

According to Press TV, the residents’ opposition to the pullout comes as the international community is pressuring Damascus to implement Annan’s six-point plan.

Under the proposed plan, the Syrian Army must first withdraw its troops from populated areas.

Damascus has criticized Annan for not requiring the same commitment from the armed terrorist groups, who are fighting the government, warning that they would enter cities as soon as the Army gets out.

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Jul 30 12 4:38 PM

Most Syrians back President Assad, but you'd never know from western media


Assad's popularity, Arab League observers, US military involvement: all distorted in the west's propaganda war

Jonathan Steele, Tuesday 17 January 2012


The key finding was that while most Arabs outside Syria feel the president should resign, attitudes in the country are different. Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war – a spectre that is not theoretical as it is for those who live outside Syria's borders.

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Aug 14 12 2:00 PM

How the New York Times Avoids Saying That the CIA Is Supporting Terrorists in Syria

Jeremy R. Hammond

June 29, 2012

The armed rebels in Syria carried out several terrorist bombings this week. They detonated a bomb in the parking garage of the Palace of Justice in downtown Damascus. They bombed a police station. They bombed a TV station. All of these are non-military targets. If this was the Taliban conducting such bombings in Afghanistan, the U.S. media would be calling them “terrorist attacks”. But since these terrorists have U.S. backing, they are not “terrorists”, by definition. The only place the word even comes up in the the New York Times article reporting this information is in this paragraph:


Even Mr. Assad, who has often belittled the Syrian insurgency as an insignificant and unpopular movement led by what he calls foreign-backed terrorists, has tacitly acknowledged his opponents’ tenacity, telling the cabinet on Tuesday that the government was engaged in a war.


Assad merely “calls” them “foreign-backed terrorists”.  That’s not really what they are, the Times would have you believe. Well, they are terrorists, by definition. And the fact that they are indeed foreign-backed is something the Times doesn’t seem to think is worth mentioning. There’s no mention of the fact that the CIA is coordinating the flow of money and arms to these terrorists, even though this fact is well known and has previously been reported by the Times. Now, why isn’t that worth even a mention in this article, even just a single sentence comment in passing?

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Sep 25 12 1:14 PM

France ready for Syrian intervention without UN

INTERNATIONAL momentum for limited military intervention in Syria gathered pace yesterday amid opposition reports that 4000 people have been killed this month, the deadliest since the uprising began.


France signalled it would be willing to participate in a limited no-fly zone and suggested for the first time that such an operation could be mounted without reference to the UN Security Council, where Russia and China wield a veto.

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Oct 9 12 4:52 PM

 We believe that the USA is the major player against Syria and the rest are its instruments’

Assad's Foreign Minister gives his first interview to a Western journalist since the conflict began


Robert Fisk

Tuesday 28 August 2012

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Oct 23 12 3:33 PM

Christians 'emptied from Middle East'

Rowan Callick

October 06, 2012

THE mother superior of a 1500-year-old monastery in Syria warned yesterday during a visit to Australia that the uprising against Bashar al-Assad has been hijacked by foreign Islamist mercenaries, with strong support from Western countries.

Mother Agnes-Mariam de la Croix was forced to flee to neighbouring Lebanon in June when she was warned of a plot to abduct her, after she revealed that about 80,000 Christians had been "cleared" by rebel forces from their homes in Homs province.

She described on the website of the Greek-Melkite Catholic monastery of St James, the church she rebuilt 18 years ago after discovering it in ruins, how Islamist rebels had gathered Christian and Alawi hostages in a building in Khalidiya in Homs. Then they blew it up with dynamite and attributed the act to the regular army.

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Nov 6 12 3:11 PM

Western-Backed Rebels Move Against Syria’s Christian Minority

Churches in Homs Under Constant Attack

 by Jason Ditz, October 14, 2012

Militant factions in rebel-held cities like Homs see Christian communities as easy targets for extortion, and the more Islamist blocs regularly target their churches, damaging many and destroying others.


Christians and other minorities have tried to form militias to protect their neighborhoods, but with the rebels awash in Western money and arms, they are simply out-manned and outgunned. As the fight continues to escalate, the groups are facing a tougher and tougher choice about whether to try to stay or to flee abroad.

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Nov 20 12 9:04 PM

The plight of Syria's Christians: 'We left Homs because they were trying to kill us'


In the civil war, they have tried to stay neutral. But despite this, many are now facing persecution and death


Kim Sengupta

Al-Qaa, Lebanon   Friday 02 November 2012

The car may have been the reason why the 23-year-old student was ambushed and taken hostage, along with a female friend, as they were travelling to a shopping complex. The revolutionary fighters with Kalashnikovs who led them away subjected Mr Bedrosian – blindfolded and tied up – to savage beatings and threats of execution before the pair was finally freed in exchange for a ransom.

Or there may have been a different reason for the attack: they were targeted by the Sunni Muslim rebels because they were Christians. Mr Bedrosian did not wait long to find out, leaving – along with his brother – for Lebanon. Others from the Syrian Armenian community followed, abandoning their homes.

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Dec 5 12 5:46 PM

Turkish people oppose Erdogan Syria policy: Analyst

Submitted by Tom Sullivan   Oct/13/2012


A political analyst says the majority of Turkish people are against NATO intervention in the Syria-Turkey conflict and their government’s policies towards the Arab country, Press TV reports.

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